Last night (Jan. 27), Van Jones premiered his new nightly talk show on CNN. Under Roc Nation Management, Jones found that it was only right to interview the man of the hour, Jay-Z. Nominated for 8 Grammy’s tonight and receiving the 2018 Icons Award, Jay-Z sat down with Van Jones for an exclusive 11-minute interview where they talk about Donald Trump’s recent distasteful comments, Colin Kaepernick, the #MeToo movement, his relationship with Beyonce, telling his truth on 4:44, and parenthood.

JAY-Z on Donald Trump’s “shithole countries” comment:
“Everyone feels anger, but after the anger it’s really hurtful because he’s looking down on a whole population of people and he’s so misinformed because these places have beautiful people.”

On Colin Kaepernick being a hero, fighting against social injustices:

“Would you rather be playing football getting your head dinged in or would you rather be an iconic figure for the rest of your life?.”

JAY-Z on mending his marriage with Beyoncé:

“For us, we chose to fight for our love. For our family. To give our kids a different outcome. To break that cycle for black men and women.”