Believe it or not, it’s been five months since Rory and Mal were “fired” from the Joe Budden Podcast during Episode 437: “You Want It To Be One Way.” Since then, the two cohosts have since branched out, starting their own podcast, New Rory & Mal.

Proving their naysayers wrong, not only is their podcast doing numbers, but the two friends have just inked a deal with SiriusXM’s Stitcher and will air weekly every Tuesday and Friday, starting November 2nd.

In an exclusive interview with Vulture, Rory and Mal spoke about their new podcast and how they wanted to do things differently, along with their current relationship with Joe Budden.

“We definitely wanted to add some new elements into podcasting. I feel like podcasting has become pretty stagnant and a little oversaturated, where everyone is just setting up microphones and talking about the same thing every single day,” Rory told Vulture.

“It’s become, like, the new mixtape or the new merch line. It’s just this shit that everybody kept doing. After everything happened [with The Joe Budden Podcast], Mal and I sat down and were like, “Yo, I think the only way we continue doing this shit is if we can really do it in a unique way.”

On The Joe Budden Podcast:

“There were a lot of things we wanted to do in the old show that we weren’t able to because we just didn’t have as much control after a while,” said Mal. “Looking back, that was the beginning of the end. Honestly, all that started when every time we wanted to try something, the energy around it would just be like, ‘Ehh, I don’t know.’ Despite the fact that this is our show, you know what I mean?”

“And then there were also a lot of business meetings that were happening that we didn’t know about. Coming out of all that was a blessing, because now it’s literally just Rory and myself having conversations about what we creatively want to do. Stuff that before would not have seen the light of day because the energy around it was just, ‘Ah, I don’t know, let’s think about that, let’s come back to that.’ It was never, ‘Yes, let’s do it, let’s try.’ With just Rory and myself, it can happen so freely now.”

On their relationship with Joe Budden:

Rory: I’ve run into him, but it wasn’t really a conversation.

Mal: I haven’t seen or spoken to him since my last day at the studio. I’m happy it went that way because if I had seen him or run into him, it would have been bad news.

Joe Budden has since indirectly responded to the comments made about him in the interview with “They’ll question your character once you stop taking care of them” via Instagram Stories.